Big Sale Has Started - UPDATED 07-31-25 (01 Apr 2025)
As some of you know my dad passed away 2 months ago today, on May 31, 2025. I posted it in the Members Only section when it happened. Thanks to all of you who have offered kind words on the forum, with phone calls, and visits in person during this time.
The Big Sale is on but not like originally planned, it is a by appointment type of thing now. I don't have the manpower, or the desire to do a big event like originally planned, I just need to sell a lot of parts that are taking up too much space here. I have been told and believe we are overloaded with Wheel Horse parts like no one has ever seen. Peeps have already been coming in from different parts of the country and buying a lot of stuff due to seeing the sale page, and seeing we are the only Wheel Horse only business in the USA that does things on the scale we do. The sale will continue for awhile until I free up some more space but you may not want to wait too long as things are being sold every day and there are limits to how many of certain parts will be sold.
As it says on the page it is still under construction and the page isn't finished yet. I've had a ton of calls for parts and the Big Sale Page may help answer some questions about what is here before peeps call. I hope that page is also clear that we DO NOT SHIP anything... This is a by appointment type of thing now. Be sure to call before you come to make sure the day isn't already full with peeps scheduled to come in, and make sure what you want is still available.
Bob's 414-8
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12 Jul 2025 18:59 #18624
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Haven't had the need to put anything in here for awhile so I thought it was time. I thought everyone was tired of seeing the same ole same ole but some peeps told me I'm not putting enough in here lol.
Bob bought this tractor new in 1988, it's a 414-8 just like mine from 87. It's the first 414 I've had in the shop for work, you don't see many of them for sure. It needs some cleanup, seals, PTO clutch, mostly a lot of not so big things minus a possible engine rebuild, we'll see. It uses a few quarts of oil a year so it will prob get the head pulled to take a look after all the other smaller things are done in case it runs into too much time. The engine could be put off for awhile, I have what he mows with so I need to get it back to him without keeping it too long. With all the monsoons and heat around here the grass grows like crazy. He's a little less than an hour from me so it's not too bad a trip.
It's getting steam cleaned Monday morning then we'll go from there.
Bob bought this tractor new in 1988, it's a 414-8 just like mine from 87. It's the first 414 I've had in the shop for work, you don't see many of them for sure. It needs some cleanup, seals, PTO clutch, mostly a lot of not so big things minus a possible engine rebuild, we'll see. It uses a few quarts of oil a year so it will prob get the head pulled to take a look after all the other smaller things are done in case it runs into too much time. The engine could be put off for awhile, I have what he mows with so I need to get it back to him without keeping it too long. With all the monsoons and heat around here the grass grows like crazy. He's a little less than an hour from me so it's not too bad a trip.
It's getting steam cleaned Monday morning then we'll go from there.
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14 Jul 2025 18:37 - 14 Jul 2025 18:38 #18625
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Got Bob's tractor out to the steamer this morning, it came out really nice. It needs a little touch up here and there but that will get done later.
The above post is wrong, according to the model number it's actually a 1987 just like mine, he bought it new in 88 so it must have been a leftover.
The above post is wrong, according to the model number it's actually a 1987 just like mine, he bought it new in 88 so it must have been a leftover.
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16 Jul 2025 09:21 #18626
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Got started on some mechanical work yesterday. Half of the PTO clutch was missing so it's getting a used like new one. The used one isn't broke in yet, you can see the darkness toward the middle where it never hit. It seems all of the PTO Clutch housings were never straight, they always were curved toward the outside, I've seen this on every one including checking the NOS ones I have. The resurfacing finds it pretty quick as in the pics below, the pics are in steps and in the 4th pic you can see the original turning cuts that never hit the clutch plate. I think they cut it too fast and it heated up and curved to the outside where the metal was thinner.
Although this tractor is really clean the input shaft pulley was really stuck unlike any I've seen before. You can see from the pic of the shaft it was pretty bad. It's apart and the pulley was saved but took awhile. All of the seals are getting replaced. Yesterday was crazy so I didn't get as much done as I hoped but progress is progress...
Although this tractor is really clean the input shaft pulley was really stuck unlike any I've seen before. You can see from the pic of the shaft it was pretty bad. It's apart and the pulley was saved but took awhile. All of the seals are getting replaced. Yesterday was crazy so I didn't get as much done as I hoped but progress is progress...
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16 Jul 2025 19:20 #18628
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Thanks Nappy, hope all is well with you and yours.
Had to run some errands and see the chiropractor today so didn't get as much done. A new fuel shutoff + grommet, fuel lines, clamps were replaced and a fuel filter added today. The carb was cleaned + set and it was run briefly. The shifter was eat up and the set screw was worn. I never really noticed on one this new but the special set screw was not carbon steel like what I use and what used to be on all of them, it is now though. You can tell from the pic the one I took out was not carbon steel and didn't have an actual jam nut, just a regular nut.
Before the carb was adjusted it was running really rich and noticed a little black smoke around the right rear of the head gasket so it's getting pulled tomorrow. So far everything's going good.
Had to run some errands and see the chiropractor today so didn't get as much done. A new fuel shutoff + grommet, fuel lines, clamps were replaced and a fuel filter added today. The carb was cleaned + set and it was run briefly. The shifter was eat up and the set screw was worn. I never really noticed on one this new but the special set screw was not carbon steel like what I use and what used to be on all of them, it is now though. You can tell from the pic the one I took out was not carbon steel and didn't have an actual jam nut, just a regular nut.
Before the carb was adjusted it was running really rich and noticed a little black smoke around the right rear of the head gasket so it's getting pulled tomorrow. So far everything's going good.
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17 Jul 2025 19:13 #18629
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Everything going well again today. Seems a lot of the oil consumption was a blown head gasket making it run rich and putting fuel in the oil. I haven't seen this much carbon build up in anything before, it built a wall near where the gasket was blown. I also blew on the bottom (block side) instead of the top which is unusual. There is a lot of raw fuel on the head and piston as well.
Everything got cleaned up today and is ready to go back together. The cylinder wall looks great, the piston is pretty tight in the bore, and there is no sign of egg shaping to the naked eye. The block was checked and there were a few burrs around some of the bolts that were smoothed out. The head was resurfaced then blasted as were the bolts and washers. A new Kohler head gasket, my cheat sheet with specs + sequence , and my torque wrench is out and ready to go.
Everything got cleaned up today and is ready to go back together. The cylinder wall looks great, the piston is pretty tight in the bore, and there is no sign of egg shaping to the naked eye. The block was checked and there were a few burrs around some of the bolts that were smoothed out. The head was resurfaced then blasted as were the bolts and washers. A new Kohler head gasket, my cheat sheet with specs + sequence , and my torque wrench is out and ready to go.
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22 Jul 2025 18:38 - 22 Jul 2025 18:45 #18633
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The fuel pump gasket had a leak so it is off, the block is cleaned up and was all touched up with Satin Black. It's still a little shiny but hasn't dried down yet.
Next up was pulling the rear hubs. These were the toughest ones in 10 years since I replaced the last bolt in my home made puller. The left was tough and the right side not only ate the bolt up even with Schaeffer 500,000 PSI extreme grease on it, but it will need another $20 bolt. It's a 1"-8 grade 8. The bolt and socket were so hot I couldn't touch them, and my IR Titanium impact was working so hard at 200PSI air pressure it was sweating as you can see in the pic. I knew these things were tough sometimes but I didn't know some of this like the impact sweating was even possible in here.
I can't see any hubs ever surviving that kind of pull without my home made puller and how it attaches. I guess the nice thing is even with that kind of work I saved two hubs that were far far more expensive than a bolt and the little extra labor so it's still a win win.
Next up was pulling the rear hubs. These were the toughest ones in 10 years since I replaced the last bolt in my home made puller. The left was tough and the right side not only ate the bolt up even with Schaeffer 500,000 PSI extreme grease on it, but it will need another $20 bolt. It's a 1"-8 grade 8. The bolt and socket were so hot I couldn't touch them, and my IR Titanium impact was working so hard at 200PSI air pressure it was sweating as you can see in the pic. I knew these things were tough sometimes but I didn't know some of this like the impact sweating was even possible in here.
I can't see any hubs ever surviving that kind of pull without my home made puller and how it attaches. I guess the nice thing is even with that kind of work I saved two hubs that were far far more expensive than a bolt and the little extra labor so it's still a win win.
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23 Jul 2025 18:52 #18635
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Having just as much trouble with the keys as the hubs. I got them to move a tiny bit and they will be soaked overnight. I will be surprised if they survive, I've already had to beat them to death and take a chisel to them...
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24 Jul 2025 19:26 - 24 Jul 2025 19:26 #18636
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This one wins the prize for one of the toughest ones ever, and the first one to give me so much trouble with the keys.
In one of the pics you will see a keyway cutter in a pair of vice grips, that's what it took to get the bottom of the keyways clean. I've never shown that setup on the forum because I never had one this bad that I had to do this. You can even see some rust pits in the right side in the bottom after it's cleaned up and ready for a new key.
New original seals are all in, new case hardened locks, jam nuts, and keys are out and ready to go. Everything is cleaned up and polished, inside and outer portion of the hubs are blasted, and you can slide the hubs all the way to the axle with your pinky, as usual around here lol.
Other than being really troublesome it's still the same thing you guys have seen me do a hundred times before on here over the years.
In one of the pics you will see a keyway cutter in a pair of vice grips, that's what it took to get the bottom of the keyways clean. I've never shown that setup on the forum because I never had one this bad that I had to do this. You can even see some rust pits in the right side in the bottom after it's cleaned up and ready for a new key.
New original seals are all in, new case hardened locks, jam nuts, and keys are out and ready to go. Everything is cleaned up and polished, inside and outer portion of the hubs are blasted, and you can slide the hubs all the way to the axle with your pinky, as usual around here lol.
Other than being really troublesome it's still the same thing you guys have seen me do a hundred times before on here over the years.
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